Ethan Wendle: G42 Leadership Academy Director
Seth Barnes : [00:00:00] It'd be fun to talk about. What Ethan and I were talking about earlier, which is, you know, what is our hope as a tribe like Ken, a remnant from the younger generation do church better than we boomers did it because we didn't do it.
, you know, the Zeke passage, can these bones live.
And the church, at least in America, can have remnant rise up and do what, you know, the former generation didn't do so well. Like we, we've lost community in America. Forget the church. We, we've lost community and the woman, they kind of come out of our bomb shelters. Is there going to be. Something that looks like community, that we're, that we move toward, or do we get back on our iPhones and call that virtual community?
Do we. Did we opt for that? What is your thought?
Ethan Wendle : [00:01:05] That's a big question. First of all, I'd just like to say hello to everyone. I'm seeing a lot of faces I haven't seen in a long time. Um, would love to know how you are all doing. I know that you've been to Thailand and Nicaragua since last we talked. Hi Andrew and Jacob down there.
Are you guys in a separate house by yourselves or do you have other people there as well? What are their two houses?
Andrew Haak : [00:01:28] Technically three,
Ethan Wendle : [00:01:29] three houses, three houses. Okay. And w w like, are you just like living with people in Gainesville or did you just rent a bunch of houses real quick or
Andrew Haak : [00:01:39] it's actually worked out really well.
I don't know if you know of the annex. Um, part of, uh, well, it's about a mile
from the adventures offices.
Um, there's a classroom that we divided
up space or
living space. Um, a trailer nearby and then a house next to it
is, uh, this is
base headquarters that we are able to
stay at. So the staff were able to have a space.
The students are split into houses and
it's been good. Very cool. Okay. All right. So the students are in two different houses. Is it like a guy's house and a girl's house?
Um, not entirely just be a space wise. We were able to
Ethan Wendle : [00:02:09] change it up, but Oh, I only see guys on the left and I only see girls on the right.
Andrew Haak : [00:02:15] you guys on the left right are probably hiding.
Ethan Wendle : [00:02:19] Okay. Awesome. And I can't hear anyone. Maybe they're all muted, I guess. Okay. All right. Hey guys, how are ya? Um, who is still working on their companies is every, I mean these are all the companies that you launched still going is um,
Seth Barnes : [00:02:34] two of them?
Ethan Wendle : [00:02:35] Yeah. Is anybody revenue? ING? Does anybody have any revenue?
Okay. Wow, that's cool. Actually, you were able to get to product and revenue. Yes, sir. Interesting. All right. I'd be very curious. I know that you've been speaking with Jessica Taylor, um, at shop at the, well, we had a conversation about what you guys were up to, so
yes, you can say, I already got that directly. Awesome. And, uh, clink was it, was it clink?
Kelson Mudd : [00:03:15] Yes, sir.
Ethan Wendle : [00:03:19] app is app is launched, like, can I download it?
Kelson Mudd : [00:03:22] Do you have an iPhone or an Android
Ethan Wendle : [00:03:24] or iPhone?
Kelson Mudd : [00:03:25] Okay. So
that'll be out in,
Nathan Bird : [00:03:27] I don't know. We submitted our app to it throughout bullet and then got rejected because they don't want us like setting up donors in the ATAP.
They want us
to redirect to a website.
Ethan Wendle : [00:03:40] Interesting.
Nathan Bird : [00:03:41] So they want to some like business logic.
Ethan Wendle : [00:03:44] Interesting. And so, so can you actually receive donations are,
Nathan Bird : [00:03:48] yes.
Ethan Wendle : [00:03:49] And are you
Kelson Mudd : [00:03:51] as it, the problem is everybody uses I-phones who were trying to do, because like obviously most of the world is Android, but most Americans use I-phones and the thing is too, is to be a donor, you also have to have an Android, but now you can't because the app goes both ways.
Nobody both uses an employee and has all their donors use Android.
Ethan Wendle : [00:04:13] So we got to get approvals. Right.
Kelson Mudd : [00:04:16] But we're talking
to organizations like nonprofits and stuff. I talked to him children's hope chest. Yes. Um, to try to get some of their, like more longer term missionaries on, sir.
Ethan Wendle : [00:04:28] Yeah. Everybody's missionaries are in a weird state of flux right now.
So it's like, um, what are we, what are we raising money for? We're not sure if we're going back out, so we don't know where we are. So. Uh, it is a very challenging time in the world to be doing much, um, business.
So a little bit of update on us here. Um, uh, we are obviously in, in, uh, like crazy lockdown here in Spain. Um, not allowed out of the house unless you are going to get groceries or go to the pharmacy.
Um, I sneak into the epi everyday because my house is a madhouse with seven kids under the age of nine. Um, we have our four obviously, but then we have three people. Um, do any of you know, Daniel and Beck's have, our costs were they were here for a little while. Did they do anything in your class in the fall?
Kelson Mudd : [00:05:18] They were, were here, we overlapped,
but to sit with us.
Ethan Wendle : [00:05:23] So they came for specifically the month of March, but then, um, got stuck here so they cannot get out of here and there are no flights out of Spain, um, to really anywhere now. Um, unless you want to like call the embassy and get on some sort of like plane or something.
Um, which hasn't really been necessary for us. Plus the last, you know, some of those who've been costing crazy amounts of money, so they're stuck here, um, at our place. Um, and so the kids are crazy. So I sneak into the epi in the morning, um, and then I leave the epi and go to the Roski to get a bag of groceries to walk past the police and showed them my groceries so that they will not arrest me or find me.
Um, uh, the, the, yeah, the lockdown here is very, very serious. We have been, um, in this state, uh, for almost four weeks, and we, we, uh, it started on March the 15th, I guess. Um, and, um. You know, yesterday, we, we, we've, we, we may have crossed, I mean, it appears we've crossed the peak and we were, we were, there was about a thousand deaths a day for a little while, and now that is dropped down to about 750.
Um, so, uh, there's really no end in sight for us though, because every time we get to the end of the two week, you know, quarantine, they add two more weeks on. So right now we're supposed to be in here until April the 26th. Um, but no one has been able to present a plan that makes any sense on how people are going to get out.
So we will see, um, and dumb diamond back. My company in Pennsylvania is closed down as well. Um, they have been shut down for multiple weeks. Um, that has been a bit of a nightmare. Uh, although everybody, you know, we've, we've been able to get everybody paid, um, and we are dealing with the, um, stimulus package to access funds.
And try to figure out how to pay people without making revenue. Um, and so there's only so long that you can, you know, not make revenue. Uh, the stimulus package is designed to, to help people kind of get through this season and, and it at least helps you pay your employees and pay some rent. Um, are you, have you guys had any other business leaders come and just talk to you about like how they're, how they're handling this, this present crisis of, it's a crazy time to be thinking about starting a business, but fortunately you have not already started your businesses to massive extents and you don't have like giant payrolls, but.
Kelson Mudd : [00:07:46] Yes, we have. We've had, we talk every morning with Marty.
Ethan Wendle : [00:07:50] ShopStyle. Yeah, he's up in Harrisburg. I know him.
So how is the wine business? I feel like the wine business is doing really well.
Kelson Mudd : [00:07:58] Well, they had to move to delivery so now they're buying vans and they're delivering.
Ethan Wendle : [00:08:05] Wow.
Yeah. I mean, because, uh, in Pennsylvania they shut down manufacturing cause that's not an essential service. But they kept the bigger distributors open for sure, because that is an essential service. So, um, I mean, what really sucks about the present way that this is being rolled out is that it's not being rolled out federally.
So my, many of, most of my competition lives in States that are able to still make product. And, um, so it's been horrible because not only are we, you know, we're, we can't make the orders that we're getting. Um, customers that need product, something to, to, to function on their truck in a short amount of time are now going to competitors.
Um, because over in Ohio you can make products, but in Pennsylvania you cannot. So it's really, really. A frustrating landscape for business. Businesses do not like uncertainty. And we have a lot of uncertainty. Still. The stock market seems to have been like whoever's running the stock market is not Marty shops though, because they're seeing nothing but like roses and sunshine on the horizon.
I have no idea how, um, but the, the market seems to have stabilized and going up. So, um, the question that Seth asked me had nothing to do with business or, um, the collapse of. The local economy, um, or your businesses. It had to do with the, um, the church, uh, in America. And I guess I'd really like to just get your opinions on, um, you know, what, if anything, does this crisis change for your generation?
Like, like, does it change anything at all or, yeah. Will, is everybody just waiting and to go back to normal.
Kelson Mudd : [00:09:43] And I personally think as far as young people go, I think
we will all, we were already
there talking about Holly, like the church was collapsing, you know, at the
But I think that it's a church just from what I was sort of, I guess seeing was like.
Uh, more like a church. It wasn't institutional, but one that was based in people who wanted, that they didn't want a mass produced relationship. they wanted an actual community. And I think churches like that were being created and that obviously not at the rate that the institutional church was being, I guess, destroyed by young people.
But I think this could very well be a catalyst in terms of. Well, if people are just realizing that, I think the, I think they could very well realize the value of real human interaction and actual community. And especially too as we're the most anxious, you know, stress generation ever
so having an actual community to lean on, I think, and this is going to, like I said, catalyze that is going to be very important for people. on the curation at least I think so. I don't think we'll go back to 100% normal immediately.
Ethan Wendle : [00:10:55] Yeah. I mean, have you guys connected with some of your friends? Um, well, I guess I have a question.
how many of you actually, you know, went to an institutional church yourselves or, or found that was like where you were going? I see one.
So when I say an institutional church, I mean a traditional church, a Sunday morning. Uh, you know, so for Mo, it's, it looks like most of you did. Um, and so you would not be part of the people dismantling the local church, I suppose. Uh, but certainly the statistics of your, of your generation are such that, that, you know, very, very, you know, many, many, many young people were leaving a Sunday service type.
, building centered, , church. The, the, the interesting thing about this present situation is that like all of those churches have now gone online. And, um, and so you're sort of like, we're watching the worship band play and we're watching the, everybody's pastors now become a televangelist.
And, um, and so the, you know, they're kind of getting that connection there, which, , I, I guess the, , the question that many of us are asking is, um, what, what is normal look like on the other side of this? Yeah. Can, are we going to get back? Um, just kind of like life life as it was. Um, you guys in particular have encountered a different level of community because you are living with one another.
Um, and maybe you found that that is, uh, been helpful in this time or yes. No. I mean, you have friends that are isolated by themselves that you're chatting with. How are they doing it then? Just sort of like in their house trying to Skype with people, getting bored.
Lexi Grisanti : [00:12:45] I feel now it's kind of the breaking point and like you understand, um, like we're really blessed community, but I can't keep they're crazy.
So I see the church going into different ways of maybe people that weren't actually following Jesus will drop up, but the ones who are like, I'd be, there's going to be people that take their faith more seriously. Then we'll see a rise in radical Christians, I guess you could call it. So I see like Gilmore loop.
Warm Christians, like if you don't want to be there, you won't be there. Uh, but then I do see a rise in people craving, human interaction and everything. Jesus is like to rise for that.
Ethan Wendle : [00:13:22] Yeah. Do you see, any of your friends, um, or people, you know, sort of rethinking their life.
Lexi Grisanti : [00:13:27] Yeah.
Ethan Wendle : [00:13:28] Yeah. I mean, I've seen just a lot of posts and a lot of people who are losing their jobs. , it's a really, it's an insane season in that we have sort of a massive transition that's sort of been forced upon thousands and millions of people where, , if they didn't want to make a change because they were scared, now that change has been thrust upon them.
And some people will obviously get their jobs back. Um, but a lot of people will, not, a lot of people will, you know, this will be a forced total transition.
Lexi Grisanti : [00:14:01] Yeah.
Mary Korch : [00:14:03] Hi, Ethan. I have a question.
Ethan Wendle : [00:14:04] Hey, how are you, Mary?
Mary Korch : [00:14:06] Good.
So I know at least being in a lot of people in the world race, um, global U adventurous community were very quick to , have hope in revival for, um, a lot of the churches, a lot of the Christian community in America during this time.
Mmm. Do you think that a lot of other churches or other people in the world are taking that approach or, um. Cause I, I don't know about anyone else. I just feel like we're kind of in a little bit of a bubble, even though we're in America because we're still in quarantine and all these things. So I'm just curious what the temperature read is on the rest of the world.
Ethan Wendle : [00:14:43] Yeah, I would say that. Um, as far as outside of the U S uh, I can't speak too much to it. Um, I'm not certainly hearing anything here in Spain that's like, Oh, revival is coming, um, within, within anybody who's in sort of any sort of charismatic circle in America. A revival is sort of always coming. And so, um, you know, to the extent that they can get, if there's any sort of global or, or significant events that can be latched onto that revival is coming, they will do that.
And there's a strong sense that, um, that is the case again, with this time. I think this one is slightly different in that, um. We are, we are. We do believe, you know, and I, I would say that for all of the people that I know, there is a strong sense that, um, there's that God can, God is going to bring an amazing good out of this, um, and that people are going to, you know, begin to evaluate what's important in life and what they actually want out of their life.
And, and I think it's gonna change their perspective on. Uh, well, I think really it depends on how long this goes. Uh, you know, from, from what I believe, I think it's going to go on for pretty decent amount of time and it's going to pretty drastically change people's lives. If it were to stop tomorrow and everything, go back to normal, I think we'd probably, people would probably just sort of pick up where they left off.
Um, but yeah, I do think that, um, that in the Western church there is a, there is a strong sense that something is wrong. And that this will give us the opportunity possibly to, to choose a different way, you know, as, as, as a society, as far as the rest of the world goes. I've not heard that. Um, you know, even that guy was just on the phone with Brandon and the guys in India.
Um, and they do sense the opportunity to show love, you know, in many ways, and the opportunity to take care of needs, which I think, honestly. That's if you want to know why revival births out of crisis, um, revival births out of crisis, at least from my perspective and from the church history that I've been reading.
And that, um, people who may not have in the past been able to receive love or to experience kindness or the mercy of others, or , the love of God coming toward them now all of a sudden can experience it. And they're, they're seeking it. They're, they're seeking hope. They're seeking something and they turn to the father and they actually receive it in many ways.
It's the way that the Christians, like if you look at the way that the church exploded in Rome, it exploded during plagues. And because during plagues, the Christians would go out and care for the sick, and they would put themselves in harm's way to take care of the dead bodies. And they would, um, you just, yeah, it'd be insanely bold with the way that they would carry on their life despite the chance of dying.
And, um, certainly in, in one of the major plagues toward the end of . The persecution of Christians before Christianity became the official religion of Rome. Um, the, uh, the, the Roman priests were like lamenting to the, to the Pope that like, we're going to lose all of our people because they're all becoming what they called atheists.
By which they met people who no longer believed in the Roman gods because they're seeing the way that these Christians act and live in spite of the, the, the consequences that are there. And so I think that it's an opportunity for Christians to, to rise up to meet, needs, to stand in the gap, to do things that show the love of Christ in a radical ways, at great risk or cost to themselves.
And that usually awakens people to the God that we have inside of us. And that's usually how revival begins to birth. So it will birth both through your acts.
Seth Barnes : [00:18:39] For Eaton. Maybe he's hearing us now, maybe not. But, uh, I hope you guys are praying into that. And I know your elders are bringing into that. It's something we wonder and, and really our lives are kind of committed to the proposition that there will be a better day for the church. We will see a different kind of church and, um, you guys are going to help bring it